Discussion/Writing Post

[dceu_kinkmod]

This post is for everything that's not prompts, fills or comments on prompts/fills. You can discuss the movies or trailers or headcanons here, but you can also use this as a writing post: talk about fic ideas you've had (whether they're based on kinkmeme prompts or not), brainstorm with others, bounce ideas off someone, or post snippets you've written to get some feedback. Or even just some cheerleading and support while you write. You can also use this post to find a beta.

Basically: if it doesn't go on the prompt post, you can do it here.

Prompt post #1 is here. All non-DCEU prompts go here.

Comments

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

NA

Is there a tumblr kinkmeme? I've seen people reference one on AO3, but I'm tumblr illiterate and can't find it.

I'm also saddened by the lack of active DC memes. I wonder if there's enough interest for a separate meme? Or maybe just a separate post here, the way some TV show fandoms have a post for the show and one for RPF?

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I've wondered that too! I haven't been able to tell, one way or another. Personally, I've collected random prompts off of the superbat tag. Searching for kinkmemes on tumblr usually just brings up people bemoaning the death of old dc-related ljs or kinkmemes that were only a few posts long.

I'd be TOTALLY THRILLED to have a separate post here for DCU/comicsverse/literally anything else DC related. Because I'm a huge fan of every iteration of DC comics. And because we already have a critical mass of prompters/fillers here. (And because it's very comfy here, it's true.)

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

I just find tumblr the worst for making any connections, unless you're talking about a really tinh fandom. It seems like you hve to be on it 24/7 to keep up with anything?!

I wouldn't mind starting up a separate meme if there was enough interest, but of course it would be much easier to keep things in one place, if the mod here was willing to do it. Should there be one post for everything non-DCEU, or should we break it up into comics and animated stuff? I assume there are separate kinkmemes for the various TV shows, so those should probably stay off this meme?

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

You can make connections through tumblr--but you're right, the dashboard is a terrible way to do it. I usually stay in touch by using the messaging/ask/reply features, and to trawl specific ship or fandom-related tags to see what my fandom friends are posting. Superbat's small enough that you can do that easily. It's kind of funny that tumblr's actually a lot easier to use once you've found a friends group than the other way around. xD

If the mod was willing to do it, I'd pitch the idea of one whole thread for everything non-DCEU for prompts, and perhaps ask if we could have a rule or guideline that when prompting for non-DCEU things, maaaaaybe prompters should try to be as flexible and open with what canons you're willing to accept. Because there's just SO MANY of them. (But obviously if there's a prompt that's about a very specific comic storyline, that's its own kettle of fish).

Once upon a time there were kinkmemes for the various shows, but again I don't know if any of them are active any more (e.g. Smallville, Lois & Clark, Gotham, Flash, Arrow, etc...). I personally have dipped my toes into all of those ponds...but I probably wouldn't want prompts that got as granularly specific as "something spinning off of this VERY SPECIFIC TV EPISODE OF A SHOW I WATCHED 10 YEARS AGO".

So, um, if we were working out the logistics of this thing (which again, only if the mod wanted to take this on! Or unless we wanted to create a supplemental kinkmeme to this one), I'd probably suggest having a tagging system for what kind of prompt it is, and keep it as general as possible. Like:

[DCU] (general dc comics universe)
[DCnU] (DC New52 universe)
[DCAU] (DC Animated universe, Timmverse)
[AF] (animated film universe, all of those lovely direct to video animated films DC releases)
[ATV] (animated TV: Young Justice, The Batman, Beware the Batman, etc.)
[LEGO] (okay I'm clearly running out of ideas here. xD)

And then, maybe just encourage prompters to stay within those guidelines, and let the prompter express a preference if they have one, but let the filler pick the subset of [thing] that they wanted to fill for?

This all depends on how open/flexible people are with other canons, and what canons we're actually interested in. As you mentioned, I'd be fine with leaving off other live-action TV/Movie universes in this kinkmeme (even though I love them all).

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

Gonna use me an [ARKHAM] tag oh yesss.

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

oh ho ho ho ho, by [ARKHAM] do you mean the games?

Dear god, Joker and Bruce in those games -- really two sides of the same coin. They're as much soulmates as they are enemies.

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I AM HERE FOR THIS, NONNY. <3

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Hmm I guess it's because I'm not on tumblr often enough to make friends that I feel like I just get lost in the flow of things. Not to mention, I can't deal with people who keep changing their usernames! Sometimes I log back in and I don't recognize even half of who I'm following. I guess it's just not the place for me, in terms of fandom (I like to use as an inspiration/resource blog).

I saw above that the wonderful mod is going to be putting up a post! Yay! I think what you said would work best, with a tag in the comment header for which canon. I guess we shouldn't explicitly exclude other live-action canon, but I just assumed they would already have active kinkmemes, and people would probably have a better chance of getting things filled on there. I've never really looked though. Something about the CW verse just doesn't lend itself to kinkmemes for me.

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

anon, I understand the feeling regarding the CW-verse. I like watching CW-verse a lot, but I've never felt compelled to dive into fandom for it.

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

Yeah the fannish side just doesn't appral to me, beyond browsing some gifs and photosets. Except mmmmmmaybe for Captain Cold/Heatwave, because they are one of my OTPs regardless of medium, apparently *g*

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I can't wait for you to be able to tell us more about this. 8>

*checks for new prompt post*

*remembers dceu mod is busy*

*dangit*

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

OH HAI THERE FELLOW COLDWAVE FAN :3

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Love using tumblr as a place for inspiration & resources too. There's just an amazing treasure trove of material there. It's one of the reasons I can't tear myself away from it, even as I've come to appreciate dreamwidth & twitter more as fandom spaces. No other fandom space is as visually oriented as tumblr, and I appreciate that.

AND YAY FOR DCEU-MOD! We probably shouldn't exclude other live-action canon, it's true. I know that Arrow has a thriving fanfic community, but Gotham's kinkmeme was tumbleweeds-through-the-streets level of deserted (for fillers; it seems you can get people prompting on even the oldest of posts). All I know is that I have a handful of comics-related prompts and I can't wait to show them off.

Because kinkmeme/anon memes are more than just enjoying a universe, right? It's about being so deep in a universe that there are things that you just *need*. I'm okay with the CW fic I've read. It's good, i liked it. The end. (This may be because there's no live-action TV configuration of superbat that I'm interested in. I'm still bitter that Smallville never got to use Bruce, and despair of Bruce and Clark ever meeting (or punching each other) (or angstily repeatedly breaking-up like in the 80s comics) on the small screen.)

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

I'm kind of bummed that my fannish time is mostly spent lurking, ever since the decline of LJ. None of the fandoms I'm into migrated to Dreamwidth (at least, that was the case since I last checked a few years ago. This meme is the first time I've been on DW in years). And like I said above, tumblr just doesn't suit my fannish needs. Twitter is great for livetweeting, but not much else I find.

I'm surprised Gotham's kinkmeme would be so dead! I mean, if there's anything that lends itself well to kink, it's Gotham Cuty and all its characters, right?

I guess I have the same problem of no OTPs in the CW verse. Not counting Dinah/Oliver, because Arrow's versions of them are so drastically different from previous canon. And everyone on The Flash and Supergirl just feel so *young* that I can't ship anyone in more than a general, fairy-tale romance kind of thing. I'd like to see some people together, the end.

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

I spend about 90% of my fandom time lurking as well. I just don't have the energy to write fic or meta all of the time. When I do have energy, I prefer to chat/squee/complain with fellow fans about my favorite fictional characters/whatever fandom I am in at the moment.

I think Gotham's kinkmeme might be dead because Bruce is so young, as he's typically the most popular DC character for shipping.

For CW-verse, I like the canon pairings for Flash and Supergirl. But as to why I don't write fic for those shows...dunno. There are certain movies/shows I like to fic for and some that I don't, although it doesn't mean I like those shows less.

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Yeah, I definitely agree with the energy part. Tumblr's a high-energy kind of investment. And I'm not always in that kind of mood. I haven't connected with many DC fans through tumblr as I have fans for other fandoms. Maybe in part because the DCEU fandom is so very small compared to the huge crushing wave of Marvel fandom that always seems to roll into the superbat tag (when people tag for multiple ships).

I like Marvel just fine, but I'm looking for my DCU/DCEU peeps. I think this kinkmeme is the best fannish space I've found to squee & love & share about this fandom. Granted I'd love to do all of those things off anon, but I feel that would be against the spirit of this whole community.

...Only downside for me is that when I come here, I have the hugest itch to go off and fill another prompt.

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

Not the ayrt, but the one above that

Ugh yessss. The high energy thing describes tumblr so perfectly. I find a huge chubk of tumblr fans to be constantly super-dramatic and emotional. Maybe some of it's exagerration? But it's just draining to me. I hve to be in the right mood for it.

I'm actually happy to be a part of smaller fandoms, as it feels like I don't get lost in the wave of new stuff, and my experience in smaller fandoms is that they tend to be less cliquey and more welcoming. But I guess time will tell as the DCEU forges ahead!

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

I feel you, anon.

Tumblr is very Marvel-oriented, and it's difficult for anything DC-related to gain traction there. Tumblr is basically set up for rapid-fire soap-boxing, so it's hard to get a word in edgewise. What I do like about this dreamwidth and this meme is that things move at a slower pace, so it gives me more time to process prompts and discuss ideas more thoroughly with others.

I'm kind of new to DC Fandom, so I'm not ready to come off anon yet, but I wouldn't be opposed to a group chatroom or such.

...ok, I'm curious now. Which prompt are you itching to fill? :)

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

I think Gotham's kinkmeme might be dead because Bruce is so young, as he's typically the most popular DC character for shipping.

*sad crying from anon who ships Bruce/Alfred on Gotham so hard it hurts*

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I'm sorry to hear that you've faded back into lurking since the slow heat-death of lj. I only stepped back into fandom in 2014 after a very long time away from it, and the fandom I got immediately attached to was SPRAWLING and active, and it's everywhere, on nearly every platform (except dreamwidth, it's pretty much crickets). Twitter turned out to be great for that fandom because there's a critical mass of fans sharing & chatting.

But what I love twitter for, is its absolutely MASSIVE DMs. I'm a part of a 45-person fannish DM for a fanfic series of all things, and we basically use it like an IRC channel that only invite peeps can show up to. I appreciate the... out-of-the-public-eye space that gives me. My online persona and my professional persona aren't well-separated. I'd prefer not to spam all of my acquaintances with my love of fic, if I can absolutely avoid it. xD

In all of these different pockets of fandom I've found, the uniting feature is I've found them through fic challenges. (I'm kind of a big bang addict. O:) Even if I wasn't participating in them directly, in some of the best fic challenges, there's a wonderful sense of community that can get created. One challenge that I ran, we had a chatzy chatroom, and the writers, artists, and other fandom people who were just interested in talking could all hang out. It was massively fun. I'm not sure if I'm trying to pitch participating in a bang or not. (Especially since there's only one currently running DC one. I've been thinking on that too. Hmm. xD)

I was surprised by Gotham's lack of traffic too! But I think another nonny in the thread nailed it when they said it's probably due to an underage Bruce. He does seem to be one of the lightning rods for shipping in dc fandom (as well as Dick Grayson and Clark Kent).

So far, in the CW universe, there's been a bit of sweet romance, but no pairing or shipping dynamic that just clicks with me. And I can understand that. I generally don't ship easily. When I do, I fall into that fandom hard and never want to claw my way back out again.

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

Intersting about the twitter DMs! I'm an artist, not a writer, so I didn't realize people used DMs for that! I definitely understand the desire to keep some fannish things private. That's what's so great about th LJ/DW format, was the members-only communities and such. IIRC tumblr has an invite-only feature for side blogs now or something? Never got around to playing with it, but I wonder if it could be used to replicate an LJ style community?

And not that there's anything wrong with lurking, but I miss the connections and collaboration that comes from being a participant in a fannish community. I love big bangs and other challeneges! I wish the Superbat big bang was still running... I have modded big bangs and challenges before on LJ, and I've been considering starting one for DC, but I honestly wouldn't know how to go about doing it now on tumblr.

I'm the same way with shipping. OTPs for life <3

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

I think tumblr is excellent for resources as well - there's some amazing DC art I've been exposed to on that website. It's terrible, unfortunately, for community building. I've found anon kinkmemes quite a bit better because the responses don't get lost in the constant reblogs, etc.

And god the comics...the superbat slash seriously writes itself. I've read some of Loeb's Superman/Batman series and although I know it's not the author's intent to make it homoerotic, it's very easy to look at the material from a slashy perspective.

It's odd - there are certain shows that are very easy to write fic for and others that are not. I think Arrow is a bit easier for fans write for because there is a good bit of romance in the show; and let's face it, fandom loves shipping.

I never really got into Smallville, although I found a lovely Smallville!Clark/DCU!Bruce fic if you're interested: http://archiveofourown.org/works/5912137/chapters/13614802


One thing I do like about DC fandom is how many different universes we can pull characters from. It allows the writers to create many different types of stories/interpretations of the same character. It keeps reading and writing fic fresh and fun.

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Superbat-slash is so self-writing, it's hilarious. The Loeb-era stuff is a gift (Absolute Power, anyone?) Except I find writing for comics canon a little daunting. I always feel that I don't know enough about comics canon, or my canons are just too smushed together. Conversely, if you try to basic a fic off of a very particular storyline, it quickly is forgotten by the fandom-at-large a year or two down the line.

(I've experience some of that confusion with mithen's fic for example. I adore everything she's written, but sometimes I'm really confused by what canon she's referring to. Thankfully she usually provides a good guide in her author notes, and then my comics collection grows by that many more issues...Shogun of Steel and Superman 710 come to mind. xD)

I enjoy the clarity that the DCEU has with its much smaller, more well-defined canon.

(OH MY GOOD COFFIOCAKE. THAT'S MY FAVORITE SMALLVILLE FIC. NONNY, I MAY JUST HAVE TO RUN OFF TO READ THIS AGAIN.)

I whole-heartedly second your comment about how many different universes we have to pull from. Live action tv. Movies. Animated film. Animated series. Games. Comics. Plays. Lego, for Rao's sake. I've never experienced a fandom that is this pleasantly large, with such a sprawling number and types of worlds--all of the possibilities that contain. And I come out of the Star Trek fandom.

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

The DC Lego verse is actually kind of amazing. I love how OTT everyone is, especially Bruce's paranoia and Clark's super boy scout-ness. I swear it's like Bruce is so annoyed by Clark because he finds Clark super-attractive and just can't admit it to himself! XD

Re: Other DC Kinkmemes?

[(Anonymous)]

Da

I picked up some issues of the classic World's Finest series during a sale on Comixology, and whoo boy, is it ever slashy! I get that things were different back then, but wow. Sooooo homoerotic!

And I am all about the AUs (well, more canon divergence) in all my fandoms, so it shouldn't be a surprise that I also love the concept of the multiverse!